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Old 11-02-2009, 09:11 AM
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I will never understand Fezzik's infatuation with these guys. Joe
Flex showed they're coin-flippers and I'm sure by years end
the numbers will bear that out again.

And Erin Rynning.....he is to 'members' what Baker was to Cutter.
Wake up and smell the red ink 'members' another fraud.
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Old 11-02-2009, 10:08 AM
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From yesterdays recap :

Tim Trushell

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Featured Play: Houston +10 (505)


Come on dude.....
Even catching one line like this is a major problem IMO. It's vegasinsider.com all over again ...
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Old 11-02-2009, 10:24 AM
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Looks fair. More trouble would be market pissing on plays.

Tuesday
NBA Featured Play: Houston +10 (505) Win 1.0 +1.00

Friday
NBA Charlotte -2.5 (704) Loss 1.0 -1.10
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Old 11-03-2009, 04:47 AM
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The HOU +10 isn't quite as bad as some of VI's nonsense. +10 looks like it was WA for about 60-90 minutes between 11am-1230pm eastern time the day of the game:

http://www.sbrforum.com/Scores/NBA+Odds/59214/Side.aspx

Bookmaker had it from 1105am-1233pm, WSEX 1134am-1234pm, Greek 1055am-1232pm, Pinnacle had +9.5 at plus money from 923am-1228pm.

Of course, the bigger issue is whether they actually released the play between roughly 11am-1230pm. If they do release plays early in the day, we should sometimes expect to see them get the worst of the line movement. In my analysis of Vegas Insider, it was pretty clear they were cherry picking the best line available that day for grading purposes, because looking at 100+ plays, they literally never once got the worst of the line movement and frequently got a line that was only available for a small window of time.

VI took it a step further, and sometimes used lines that were never available, even for a brief period of time, i.e. Pin, CRIS, Greek, WSEX would never have any better than +6.5 for a short period of time with the game closing at +5.5, and VI would claim +7 for grading purposes. They also sometimes claimed Pinnacle openers for grading purposes that lasted for less than 5 minutes. At least with this Houston game, it's within the realm of possibility that Sportsmemo released the play early in the day and subscribers were able to get the +10.
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Old 11-14-2009, 02:08 PM
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I haven't gotten definite confirmation of this, but they have listed on their recaps:

CBB

20* Double Play: Boise State Over 141 -110 (782) Win 2.0 +2.00

From what I heard, they actually released the under and said after the fact "sorry, we meant over." The line moved from 142 to 139 and then up to 148.5. SBR's line histories aren't always precise but if they're right in this case, Pinnacle went from 141.5un-108 to 140un-111 in the space of one minute, and then 15 minutes later, went from 140un+105 to 143.5un-110.

Can anyone confirm Sportsmemo gave out the under on this game and then said they actually meant to play the over?
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Old 11-14-2009, 02:22 PM
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I haven't gotten definite confirmation of this, but they have listed on their recaps:

CBB

20* Double Play: Boise State Over 141 -110 (782) Win 2.0 +2.00

From what I heard, they actually released the under and said after the fact "sorry, we meant over." The line moved from 142 to 139 and then up to 148.5. SBR's line histories aren't always precise but if they're right in this case, Pinnacle went from 141.5un-108 to 140un-111 in the space of one minute, and then 15 minutes later, went from 140un+105 to 143.5un-110.

Can anyone confirm Sportsmemo gave out the under on this game and then said they actually meant to play the over?

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Old 11-14-2009, 02:43 PM
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Is that the site I've seen called "members's board?" I haven't really been keeping up with the boards over the last year or so.
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Old 11-14-2009, 06:44 PM
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Big LOL over here.
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Old 11-27-2009, 06:17 AM
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Helmut's CBB totals record through Thursday, Nov 26, 2009 is:

1 unit: 11-10, +0.00 units
2 unit: 3-0, +6.00 units (includes the incorrectly given out total referenced above)
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Old 12-01-2009, 10:43 AM
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Up overall for November:

Capper Units
T Trushel. 7.10
B Crow…. 7.40
R Veno…. -15.40
D Black… 4.55
F Jay…… 21.60
E Rynning. 11.70
Teddy C… -2.00
Helmut…. 5.80
Andrew L. -12.70
M Otto…. 5.40

Total 33.45
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