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Old 12-02-2014, 10:55 AM
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I was playing 10-25 5-handed. I had $5300 to start the hand, and I was the smallest stack size. Game is 2 very tight kids that see very few flops, a loose aggressive player who I haven't played with before but his VPIP is probably 80%+ and he's raising frequently. Two hands before this I had called a $700 bet on the river from him when I had 43 on a board of 223 Q K, and he only had Jack high.

And a guy who owns restaurants and clubs and has a lot of money apparently but mostly calls a lot and doesn't raise much.

Restaurant owner Mississippi straddled on the button for $50.

Loose aggressive guy was SB and had to act first. He called the $50. Unusual for him to not raise, but not that strange either.

I was UTG With AsTc. I limped for $50.

Straddle guy checked. Two tight kids folded.

So we're three-handed. Flop is Ts5s3d.

SB check. I bet $100. Button calls $100. SB raises to $600.

What should I do? And also criticism on preflop play is welcome also.

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Old 12-02-2014, 11:14 AM
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I was playing 10-25 5-handed. I had $5300 to start the hand, and I was the smallest stack size. Game is 2 very tight kids that see very few flops, a loose aggressive player who I haven't played with before but his VPIP is probably 80%+ and he's raising frequently. Two hands before this I had called a $700 bet on the river from him when I had 43 on a board of 223 Q K, and he only had Jack high.

And a guy who owns restaurants and clubs and has a lot of money apparently but mostly calls a lot and doesn't raise much.

Restaurant owner Mississippi straddled on the button for $50.

Loose aggressive guy was SB and had to act first. He called the $50. Unusual for him to not raise, but not that strange either.

I was UTG With AsTc. I limped for $50.

Straddle guy checked. Two tight kids folded.

So we're three-handed. Flop is Ts5s3d.

SB check. I bet $100. Button calls $100. SB raises to $600.

What should I do? And also criticism on preflop play is welcome also.

Thanks.
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Old 12-02-2014, 11:19 AM
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Second thing u do is shove.
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Old 12-02-2014, 04:31 PM
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I'm just calling his checkraise on the flop, and probably calling it down, but possibly folding depending on what happens on later streets. But, by the way you wrote this HH I assume he had a big pocket pair?
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Old 12-02-2014, 04:32 PM
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Second thing u do is shove.
Why? are you ever getting him off a better hand? I doubt he'd call a shove with a worse hand. What is the reasoning behind the shove?
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Old 12-02-2014, 04:38 PM
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preflop i'd raise it up. ATo does better heads up than it does in a multiway pot. might as well raise it up and try to get the pot hu with position against the loose fellow.
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Old 12-02-2014, 11:45 PM
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Fold.

It is clear the SB wants you to call.
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Old 12-04-2014, 11:40 AM
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Fold.

It is clear the SB wants you to call.
I'm going to agree with cutter simply because it's the opposite of what TBC said to do.
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And also criticism on preflop play is welcome also.
Why did you not try to isolate SB preflop?

As for the flop play, just fold. Not only are you getting into an inflated pot with a marginal holding, but you have the button left to act. I find that a lot of passive restaurant owner type guys are calling that flop with a range that includes all of their nut type hands, hoping to trap and put in a raise later. You will also price him in for any draws, meaning he is calling with a wide range and you will have no idea where you stand if you just call, and will still be out of position to him. If you could get a physical tell that he is not interested in the hand anymore, I guess you could call and then be prepared to call the LAG down when the flush bricks off.

A raise seems dubious. Maybe the LAG is a big enough maniac to crash and burn with JTo or something entirely stupid, but you would know that already and I'm guessing you wouldn't even bring this hand up if that were the case. Even still, it would suck to raise and then get owned by the button jamming it in over you.
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Thanks for the response CM. Wanted to hear from you.

I folded.

Turns out restaurant owner guy had 46 and LAG had 82o. Turn made the straight for restaurant guy.

Had I gone all in, I probably would have gotten them both to fold.
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